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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 28, 2011 7:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

The New Yorker did a sad, unflinching piece on Gil Scott-Heron last year. He did play for Clive in the late 70s; but in the end, he played for his pipe. A portrait of brilliance on a couch full of burn marks, smoke wafting from his bathroom ...

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 29, 2011 2:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

This is up and running on various sites. If you need help
obtaining it, you know where to find me...

with Brian Jackson And The Midnight Band
New York 1976 [no label, 1CD]
Live at the Village Gate, New York; 1976; Very good FM broadcast (WRVR FM Reel to Reel).

On the afternoon of May 27, 2011, poet, spoken-word artist, musician and author Gil Scott-Heron died at St. Luke’s Hospital, New York City, after becoming sick upon returning from a European trip. He was 62.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, perhaps Scott-Heron’s best-known track, critiqued the mass media of the 1970s. He was one of the first artists to use his music to speak out about the apartheid in South Africa, some time before the issue became the focus of a popular global campaign.

Seen as the Godfather of Hip-Hop, Public Enemy’s Chuck D commented: “RIP GSH… and we do what we do and how we do because of you. And to those that don’t know tip your hat with a hand over your heart & recognize… Quite stunned at the fact I just wrote and recorded guest vocals on one of his next albums. This makes one realize that time is precious, damn.

Thanks to Doinker who shared his blistering 1976 Village Gate set in 2005 and for keeping the show alive at D*me.

This is what Doinker noted:

If you have ever lived in, or around a big city anywhere in the world, or if you have ever been in one long enough to catch its flavor, you need this music.

This music speaks the city, with latin-tinged jazz fusion, street-corner down-home musicians playing the local riffs with bongos and drums. In this case, the neighborhood kid made it big, but not big enough that everybody has heard of him. It is a low-down dirty shame that you probably haven’t heard of Gil-Scott Heron. But, you need to hear him, just the same. And, after your jaw drops and shatters in a million pieces on the floor, you might ask yourself: What the f__K happened to this kind of feeling?

In this case, the city is New York, but don’t let that fool or bother you. The fact that it is New York means that this particular kind of music is the real thing, not some plastic wannabe or club act. It is genuine, gritty, soul conscious, and completely real.

You might just want to take a deep breath after listening to this, and give thanks for something. If you can’t think of anything to be thankful for, try giving thanks that maybe you are still breathing.

Enjoy this great, great show!

Thanks also to Simmdale for the artwork.

Track 01. Intro Jam (5.2MB)
Track 02. 17th Street (9.9MB)
Track 03. Must Be Something We Can Do (8.6MB)
Track 04. It’s Your World (7.6MB)
Track 05. Home Is Where The Hatred Is (20.7MB - visit the html page to download the track)
Track 05. Home Is Where The Hatred Is
Track 06. Johannesburg (10.5MB)

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Poster: user unknown Date: May 29, 2011 11:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

there are several Gil Scott-Heron shows floating around in the blogosphere

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Poster: wineland Date: May 28, 2011 10:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

Great article. Thanks for sharing. BlueDevil wrote about him a few posts ago. Check out the story and youtube.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 29, 2011 5:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

Really, it's such a tragedy. Not just dying at 62, but so many years of addiction for someone who at one time seemed to be such a voice of moral force and integrity. How ironic that he wrote/spoke/sang out not just about racial injustice, , but about the life of an addict being a dead end. (Angel Dust, with Whitey on the Moon at the end)

The funk/jazz sound is really from Brian Jackson and those who sat in at various points in the 70s, like Ron Carter. Scott-Heron was, I guess, more of a Robert Hunter -- a poet first, though he took the stage himself.

Btw, it's too bad he's being characterized as the "godfather of rap" -- accurate by accident, maybe, and I get the link for, say, Public Enemy, but rap as I hear it ... well, he's quoted as disliking rap because "you just get a lot of posturing," and I think that's exactly right. Thumping your chest while praising bling and dissing "bitches" isn't what his music/poetry was about.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: May 29, 2011 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

He and the Last Poets do deserve the label of godfathers of rap (if you want to discount the whole west african griot tradition). Anyway, Gil's own response is more on point:

Don't proffer a rap point of view taken from Hannity and O'Reilly. Gil did a lot of work with Mos Def in the last few years.

As for Gil not being a musician, please, I saw him more than 20 times over the past 25 years - some of his shows at SOB's and Ronnie Scotts are among the best musical nights of my life - and in my view Gil could more than hold his own on the bandstand. It's not like Ron Carter was doing Gil a favor.

And yes, Gil was among the first signees by Clive to Arista. Clive has been a fairly decent judge of talent over the years.

Michael Franti was a close friend of Gil's and often got the task of trying to take care of him when he was in the Bay Area. The pipe often won. Gil and Stevie Wonder, one of Gil's biggest champions, had been in recent talks about an upcoming collaboration, but death will prevent that. If his death helps people discover his work, then, welcome. Sorry it's too late to see him live....

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 29, 2011 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

Do Hannity and O'Reilly have a point of view on rap? Sorry, I wouldn't know.

Didn't say he wasn't a musician, bd; I said he was a poet first, like Hunter. Who of course is also a musician, but has been influential because of his words. Not a perfect comparison, obviously, and I'm far from knowledgeable about Gil Scott-Heron; but his music was definitely part of my world in the 70s, when it seemed honest and excitingly cutting edge and idealistic. It's sad he's gone.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: May 29, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

Having burned off many people's ears myself, in what seems an earlier life of mine, I'd like to offer the Sleeping Prophet's take,

"There we find the entity was torn within self, and yet declaring the sense of duty. Hence oft there was the necessity for subjugating the body through either alcohol or other influences to cause the body to forget." EC 1969-2

This 'need to forget' is a strong & often overwhelming force when one's will is torn between self(ishness) & sense of duty. This is not a bad thing; it is just something that the soul must outgrow. I recall a story that Cayce brought to light about a minister who so railed against the use of alcohol that he came back in his next incarnation as a drunkard to learn the lessons that one must learn about this 'need to forget.'
Recall that Christ was a 'party-goer'(e.g., Mark 2:16 & Luke 7:34 "The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!" To personally paraphrase my understanding of 'what this is,' we've all got to experience many things to learn the right & the wrong in a personal, in-our-face, kind of way & that there is no getting around this fact of being.

Sorry for the Sunday Morning Sermon-I trust it offended no one & perhaps gave one soul something positive to ponder. This is a matter near & dear to me. Whether it be Buddhism, Islam, Christianity/LDS, Cayce's new age, "A Course in Miracles" or any other Path, I urge people to search to understand & over come this 'need to forget.'
Peace to All & Love to Gil,

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Poster: gsgrateful Date: May 31, 2011 2:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron Also Played for Clive

Hey Jack, yup your post gave me pause to reflect. I had never heard of this 'need to forget' tho i've battled it all my life. Much better now but substance use, legal or not (think sugar and C for example) is always there. and thank God its grass not booze these days as well. Can i ask who is the 'Sleeping Prophet' or EC? I would love some new thoughts/approaches to my personal mystery, used to think it was coz im 100% german. Ive read much spiritual work, including the Bible, but i sent your excerpt to myself in an email with the subject of 'read often'. Appreciate any guidance, gsgrateful at yahoo, fka here as gmarks. new 'handle' peace and harmony, g

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Poster: He Live's Date: May 29, 2011 11:25pm
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gil was great. RIP.

don't miss this:

and check this:;NR=1

and....lest we forget:;feature=related

or many others...... RIP Gil.

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Poster: splue Date: May 29, 2011 11:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron

ithink this 1 is kewl 2>>

that must b something reminds me of steelydan sound a little?? thx 4 posting!! :)

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Poster: He Live's Date: May 29, 2011 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Scott-Heron

i don;t get a lot of SD my man -- but on one of my links you can link to Mos Def and then onto Jdilla .. ..... that is the connection.